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Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.14 21:16:00 - [1] Edited by: Sephra Star on 14/03/2008 21:21:53 Originally by: Sosus Red I never bought into any of these conspiracy theories or anything. I thought all the people who supported Ron Paul for Presidents were nutjobs but I recently decided to check this stuff out for myself. I must admit some of this stuff makes sense. Ig you go to youtube and search "cfr" you'll find a lot of interesting vids about the council on foreign relations. Or just do a google search for "alex jones" he has a bunch of vids. Check out the Video on google video called "matrix of evil". Anyone know anything about this stuff? I am not a complete believer but I do have an open mind. I happen to know a very great deal about it, but the Mods prefer not to have us discuss it in the forums here. You can get away with a bit reference and a link here and there, but thats about it. If you try and have any serious discussions about such issues in the forum the thread gets closed. Bear that in mind. If you keep looking into it you will find it only gets worse than you could possibly have imagined. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936 http://american_almanac.tripod.com/contents.htm#media http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm On a lighter side of the note try this... GEORGE CARLIN: LIFE IS WORTH LOSING (HBO) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVTfcAyYGg
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 03:31:00 - [2] The biggest problem you will have discussing the issues in public are the people you run into like the poster above who really knows what is going on and has for a very long time and actually approves of it. They will deny any conspiracy exists and for many of them they are probably speaking truthfully from their point of view simply because to them it is not a conspiracy. It is just the way it has always been. That of course is true as what is going on today has been going on for many decades. Such people feel quite at home living in a fascist police state. In effect when you come into contact with these people they will call anyone who points out the hypocrisy of the false reality of freedom that is projected to the public as a tin foil loon. The truth is that television and mainstream media is nothing but a very well honed propaganda weapon that is the primary tool for conditioning the masses to accept what has been planned for many decades and that we now see emerging to a full fruition. The first President Bush announced to the world that it would begin in ten years on September 11, 1991. It did just that to the very day. These people do not fool arround. They are tyrants and mass murderers who regard populations of people as no better than cattle. The people who call the truthseekers tin foil conspiracy theorists conveniently ignore all the historical facts that proove beyond a shadow of a doubt how things work in the real world and refuse to admit openly that it is still being done today in the same manner. It is business as usual to them. These are same people who turn a blind eye to the intentional genocide of whole populations because to them it is an acceptable trade off to advance the global order. (NWO) Such people by default make up the bulk of the cadre of what is termed Cointelpro. They would be referred to as Torries in American Revolutionary terms. I prefer the term traitor.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 12:49:00 - [3] Edited by: Sephra Star on 15/03/2008 12:51:52 Originally by: Fenderson alex jones is laughable. his strategy is basically to claim that he has rock-solid proof of all these different conspiracy theories, but if you actually look at the primary sources he references you will see no such evidence. case in point, his video on Bohemian Grove: clicky he has used this video many times to claim that he has solid evidence that major world leaders are involved in satan worship and human sacrifice. if you actually watch the video, it shows nothing of the sort. I just watched that video you posted. Everything in it is true with the one possible exception that they actually worship the idol. However, the members of the Bohemian Grove have countered to explain away their fixation with that idol as it being part of their yearly party retreat. They really do hold what they say are "MOCK" worship services with "MOCK" human sacrifices. Can you blame Alex Jones for calling a duck that walks, talks, and looks like a duck; A DUCK? Add to Bohemian Grove the BOY's Town Child Sex Scandal that was exposed and then covered up with no investigation, or prosicution of the Washington Politicians that were paying for their pedaphilic perversity (and likely still are). It went all the way to the White House, but hey why should the Vatican have exclusive privilages to satisfy their lust; right?
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 13:06:00 - [4] I presume your talking about the Boy's Town Scandal. It made it into the Washington Post and was backed up with documented hard evidence. A documentary was made about it and was scheduled to air on the Discovery Channel, but it was pulled and never shown to the public. You can probably still find the video floating arround it has been years since I researched the evidence available, but its there if your interested. Should be anyway. It was the Reagan Era. You have to as interested as an investigative journalist if you want to find the truth. Do your own research. Then you will know.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 13:10:00 - [5] As I recall our celebration of Christmas was actually a morphing of the Celebration of Saturn. A Roman God.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 14:20:00 - [6] Cool; watching now...
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 14:46:00 - [7] THE BANKER'S MANIFEST Capital must protect itself in every way, through combination and through legislation. Debts must be collected and loans and mortgages foreclosed as soon as possible. When through a process of law the common people lost their homes, they will be more tractable and more easily governed by the strong arm of the law, applied by the central power of wealth, under control of leading financiers. People without homes will not quarrel with their leaders. This is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of capital to govern the world. By dividing the people we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance to us except as teachers of the common herd. Thus, by discreeut action we can secure for ourselves what has been generally planned and successfully accomplished. ---------------------- The above extract was printed from the Banker's Manifest, for private circulation among leading bankers only. "Civil Servants' Year Book (The Organizer)" Jan 1934 & "New American" Feb 1934 Congressman Ron Paul: Conspiracy to Create One-World Government by World Bankers is Real Eric Rainbolt - audience member asking question of Congressman Paul at event near Austin, Texas on August 30th, 2003: "Congressman Paul, I have a question..." Moderator: "Over here." (pointing to Eric Rainbolt.) Eric Rainbolt: "Great! If we can take a look at the big picture, could you tell us, the people in this room, any information that you may have of an international and deceptive conspiracy to overthrow the American Republic and its Constitution & Bill Of Rights in order to set up and usher in a totalitarian World Government likely espoused under the UN also.."? Congressman Paul: " He asked if there was an international conspiracy to overthrow our government. The answer is "Yes". I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. And if you believe in One World Goverment, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a Dictatorship - and those plans are there!..." Parents, take a moment to remind your kids that the United States Court of Appeals for the Federal Circuit recently ruled that the government is not required to keep any of the promises the recruiters make to get them to sign up. Democrats and Republicans are not liberals or conservatives, they are Council-on-Foreign-Relations-controlled globalists working for the same agenda!
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 15:15:00 - [8] Originally by: 7shining7one7 Edited by: 7shining7one7 on 15/03/2008 14:16:45 Originally by: Fenderson i'll start you off nice and gently with the discovery channel part 2 part 3 part 4 pay close attention to the parts about the sphinx and water errosion. "In June 1990, Egyptologist John West accompanied geologist Robert Schoch to Cairo, to take a closer look at the Sphinx. For almost two decades, West had been arguing that the erosion of the Sphinx revealed that it had been weathered by rain rather than windblown sand. If that was true, then the Sphinx had to be thousands of years older than Egyptologists believe - after all, Egypt has had no rain in thousands of years. They concluded that the Sphinx dates back to 7000 BC - a time when in fact there was not supposed to be any civilization anywhere in the world - and has been built by the survivors of the vanished civilization which Plato called Atlantis. Rand Flem-Ath and Colin Wilson's book crosses continents, arguing that this earlier civilization did exist but was destroyed around 9600 BC."
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 16:36:00 - [9] Originally by: Fenderson there is some evidence that the sphinx is older than some claim. this does not prove the existence of an advanced civilization, or even a civilization. the sphinx could have been carved using the same technology that we ascribe to pre-civilization stone age people. When I was very young one of my greatest teachers was Socrates and his teacher was Plato. Too bad the Library in Alexandria was destroyed.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 16:38:00 - [10] Originally by: Fenderson Originally by: Sephra Star Edited by: Sephra Star on 15/03/2008 15:45:01 THE BANKER'S MANIFEST Congressman Ron Paul: Conspiracy to Create One-World Government by World Bankers is Real He is certainly an indication of the trend of acceptence by mainstream of the truth that any intelligent person could verify if they would only approach the subject like an investigative journalist. so because Ron Paul said it, it must be true?
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.15 17:40:00 - [11] Edited by: Sephra Star on 15/03/2008 17:41:01 Kurt Vonnegut's "Stardust Memory" On a cold, cloudy night, the lines threaded all the way around the Ohio State campus. News that Kurt Vonnegut was speaking at the Ohio Union prompted these ôapatheticö heartland college students to start lining up in the early afternoon. About 2,000 got in to the Ohio Union. At least that many more were turned away. http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0305-27.htm
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.16 18:48:00 - [12] Alex Jones - They Are Going To Kill You BELIEVE IT; cause it is planned... Not sure about the time frame, but it could be as he says. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEy6kI8OGbg
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.16 23:59:00 - [13] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 00:00:20 Try and understand that part of the brainwashing and conditioning process is to show you what they are going to do in the form of science fiction shows. That way your powers of intellect become confused and you are then unable to distinguish reality from fantasy. It has the effect of reenforcing the idea that "this will never happen". You say to yourself "Thats just too fantastic to believe". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feELmdZUrTs
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 10:14:00 - [14] 9/11: Total Proof That Bombs Were Planted In The Buildings! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT-luFIw&feature=related
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 10:58:00 - [15] 9/11 Flight 93 Rare Footage leaves no doubt the plane was shot down. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZekosYOmXc&mode=related&search= Why you might ask? Because the passengers had wrested control of the plane away from the dupe hijackers and the last thing that could be allowed to happen was for that plane to land with anyone left alive.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 11:14:00 - [16] The Order of Death (Alex Jones) http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2500924140588760933
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 13:03:00 - [17] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 13:06:01 Kinda silly responses. The post I made about salvage drones was what I came across some time ago in another thread when someone asked. I offered the best information I had on it. in response to someone asking for that information. Excuse me for trying to be helpful. If you know of a different explanation for the salvage drones skill book please enlighten us. As far as my posts in this thread go; I am not the OP for one; and second nothing I have added in this thread is conspiratorial. Everything I posted is fact based, or speaks for itself for the most part with the possible exception of a comment, or two. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. If you assume I am suggesting something by the nature of the information in any of my links I can only conclude that you think it is pretty obvious as to what the information in that link implies which is likely closer to the truth than the official explanation. In any event it appears that some people have a problem dealing with others choosing to interpret controversial information for themselves and prefer to attack the messenger instead of the message. Perhaps that is because they would likely make themselves look like a fool if they tried to argue with the facts.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 13:33:00 - [18] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 13:34:51 Bohemian Grove Human Sacrifice Cartoon It appears the Cult wants to begin desensatising young minds to their existence now that they have been exposed. http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Bohemian+Grove+Human+Sarifice+Cartoon
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 14:09:00 - [19] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 14:16:02 Usama's War on American Wealth Usama bin Laden plans strategies based on his victory over the Soviets in Afghanistan during the 1980s. The way to bring down a superpower, he has learned, is to weaken its economy through protracted guerilla warfare. We "bled Russia for ten years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden boasted in his October 2004 videotape. Three methods comprise al Qaeda's economic war against the U.S. 1)The first is the destruction of high-cost qualitative targets by low-cost qualitative means. ie $500,000 to bring down the World Trade Center costing America 5 billion. 2)Forcing the U.S. to sink unsustainable amounts of funding into its defense agencies. 3)Oil - The killing of American soldiers is nothing compared to the impact of the rise in oil prices on America and the disruption that it causes in the international economy.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 15:11:00 - [20] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 15:12:33 Originally by: ry ry i think we can all see that it was edited by Rush Limbaugh, in order to prevent his secrets being exposed. Nah. It was David Icke.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 15:34:00 - [21] Originally by: ry ry David Icke is actually Rush Limbaugh? you could be onto something there. Now if only i could figure out what on earth giant lizards have to do with anything... In a paper published in 1982, paleontologist Dale Russell, curator of vertebrate fossils at the National Museum of Canada in Ottawa, conjectured that, had the Chicxulub meteorite not exterminated the dinosaurs 65 million years ago, bipedal predators (theropods) which existed at that time, such as Troodon, would have evolved into intelligent beings similar in body plan to humans. Troodontids had semi-manipulative fingers, able to grasp and hold objects to a certain degree, and binocular vision. Like most dinosaurs of the troodontid family, this imaginary creature, which Russell called the "Dinosauroid", would have had large eyes and three fingers on each hand, one of which would have been partially opposed. As with most modern reptiles (and birds), its genitalia would likely have been internal. Russell speculated that it would have required a navel, as a placenta aids the development of a large brain case, however it would not have possessed mammary glands, and would have fed its young, as birds do, on regurgitated food. Its language would have sounded somewhat like bird song.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 16:45:00 - [22] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 16:45:04 The search for truth begins with the doubt of all "Truths" which one has previously believed. -Frederich Nietzsche
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 18:25:00 - [23] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 18:35:10 Ask yourself... Why was the man in this linked video not delivered to the Hague Court? http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1353274199652195562 Interestingly Mullah Omar offered to deliver Usama to the Hague Court before the invasion of Afghanistan.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 20:00:00 - [24] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 20:08:03 Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 20:03:29 Question - What makes a Rolex watch so special? Answer - ôHot dogs.ö Hot dogs are made from the byproducts of normal meat processing. This stuffing of crap into a thin skin is essentially the educational process for regular schmoes. People will take any piece of information, no matter how flawed, and shove it into their brain like it was carved in stone by the flaming hand of God. These people then develop ideas and base actions on said flawed information. Hence the aforementioned hot dogs, and in more extreme cases, racists, bigots, politicians and all other manner of lesser humans.ö ôExamples.ö The Wright Brothers invented the airplane.ö ôOh wait. The French were flying model airplanes 30 years before Kitty Hawk.ö ôColumbus proved the world wasn't flat.ö ôOh wait. The Germans were making globes before Columbus was even born.ö ôMedical. You have to wait an hour after eating before you can go swimming.ö ôMom used to tell us that.ö ôThe Red Cross printed that beauty up in safety pamphlets until the AMA made them take it out because it was stupid.ö ôsheesh; All that time we sat on the beach...ö ôAnd my personal favorite, bulls are attracted to the color red.ö ôNow wait a minute--ö ôBulls are color blind, ôMuch of what we have been taught is a lie.ö ôYou must unlearn what you have learned,ö [b]Question[b] So, Rolex watches aren't the best, you're just paying for a hyped up name? Then why in the hell would you pay 32,000 dollars for one?ö [b]Answer[b] Because ôIt's a Rolex.
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.17 20:17:00 - [25] Edited by: Sephra Star on 17/03/2008 20:24:26 Originally by: Fenderson amazing... Sephra, you are one dedicated troll and i salute you for it. i would continue to argue, but i would just be repeating myself. there is an amazing amount of conjecture on these subjects, and pretty much nothing that we can call actual proof. People are convicted and sent to prison on circumstantial evidence all the time in America. That is an undeniable fact. It is appaling how many innocent people have been put to death for crimes they never committed in the United States. In a very controversial move not long ago one of our American Governors suspended every death sentence of every prisoner in the entire state as he was leaving office. Boy did that **** a lot of people off. He pardoned quite a few falsely convicted murderers and rapists. Starting a war under false pretence and murdering millions of innocent civilians sounds like a crime to me. It is also an incontrovertable fact that it is what has been done; and more to the point we also know beyond the shadow of any doubt in this criminal case who is responsable. ...and you talk about lack of evidence?
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.18 06:36:00 - [26] Edited by: Sephra Star on 18/03/2008 06:42:12 Originally by: Dictum Factum Hmm, nobody is blaming the Masons. Well I did manage to infiltrate the members forum on the Mason's main lodge website in Washington D.C. some years ago. I was able to spy on them for a couple of weeks till they caught on. They actually got my phone number and called me up. Started quizing me as I was pretending to be a member of the local Tampa Lodge. The guy was very upset. It was very interesting reading the posts of a 33rd degree Mason feeding his elitist mentality to a bunch of Neophytes. I am originally from Tampa Florida. You can take a look at what my home town boys think of the local Masons in Tampa at this link. Linkage About a year ago I was traveling through Nashville, Tennesee and as I was walking by the Masonic Lodge I noticed someone had managed to actually embed grafitti into the brick wall of the building with the words... "NOT A SLAVE".
Sephra Star The Galactic Collective	Posted - 2008.03.22 20:15:00 - [27] Edited by: Sephra Star on 22/03/2008 20:17:11 Thu Mar 20, 2008 3:55pm EDT LONDON (Reuters) - Usama bin Laden's latest message shows that he sees Europe as fertile soil for al Qaeda, especially at a time of tension between free speech and Muslim values, but is unlikely to signal an imminent attack. Reuters How does a DEAD man keep sending messages? Bennazzirr Bhutto: Usama Bin Laden was Murdered Mainstream News Interview
Sephra Star	Posted - 2008.03.23 14:54:00 - [28] Originally by: Feilamya Forget Al Jones and Ron Paul. This one is priceless: "History of USA and terrorism" http://youtube.com/watch?v=n4H_E8b-qmo Twice the fun if you understand German, but if you don't, the translation is good enough. If you are from Germany and don't know it, shame on you. That was priceless...

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